Whoa...ball bearing direct-fit turbos for a 2.7. For $2650?

[93dx--hatch]

is there software out there that lets you tune these yourself?

[Bracketracer]

Technically, yes. It will likely be pirated, and it will likely end up being a lot of trial and error, with potential mistakes costing thousands of dollars.

In most cases, I start with someone else's tune, and do any further fine-tweaking using Unisettings or Lemmiwinks.

[Matt Danger]

What are options for logging besides VAG-Com now that ECUx is all but unavailable?

[Xander]

Was it running race gas? Jeller raced a guy on upgraded turbos with and without race gas, and it was night and day difference. The race gas should have been good for a low 12 in an S4 based upon the car's abilities.

X...

[Bracketracer]

Originally Posted by Matt Danger

What are options for logging besides VAG-Com now that ECUx is all but unavailable?

As far as I know:
- a stopwatch
- a long screwdriver for the guy in the engine compartment to listen for detonation
- some paint marks and another guy riding in the engine compartment with a timing light
- another guy outside the car to listen to the exhaust
- yet another guy in the engine compartment with a infrared temp gun to check turbo temps
- some scaffolding around the front of your car to keep the guys from falling out

Honestly...I have no logging alternatives....yet.

[Bracketracer]

Originally Posted by Xander

Was it running race gas? Jeller raced a guy on upgraded turbos with and without race gas, and it was night and day difference. The race gas should have been good for a low 12 in an S4 based upon the car's abilities.

X...

It would definitely make a difference of a good 40+ hp with serious turbos. My car, even though I haven't logged it, feels like about 20hp between 93 and 100 octane.

[spam16v]

Originally Posted by Bracketracer

As far as I know:
- a stopwatch
- a long screwdriver for the guy in the engine compartment to listen for detonation
- some paint marks and another guy riding in the engine compartment with a timing light
- another guy outside the car to listen to the exhaust
- yet another guy in the engine compartment with a infrared temp gun to check turbo temps
- some scaffolding around the front of your car to keep the guys from falling out

Honestly...I have no logging alternatives....yet.

fuck, this is going to suck for me....

[haus4]

Are these the new Tial turbos? They dont look like GTs to me. For 2650 it isnt bad. What is the size comparable too? 25R or 28R?

[LowlyOilBurner]

these are not the tial turbos.

[Bracketracer]

Actually, yes, they are the Tials, but not the versions that are in their R650 kit.